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Before I go into the comic itself, there's one rather interesting thing about this issue that many people that read the preview descriptions may have noticed after reading it, or to put it better, what was missing from this issue.  What I'm talking about of course, is the mysterious figure that was supposed to be tailing Sonic and friends, yet suddenly doesn't even exist anymore and won't exist for the foreseeable future.  Why do they no longer exist?  Because of orders from the higher ups.

Now normally something like this wouldn't be that big of a deal, but many believe, especially through interviews with Flynn, that the figure would have ended up being Hershey and that she was going to make her return soon back into the story.  However, due to orders from above she will be forced to remain fake killed off for now, without any chance of returning any time soon.  I can't help but find this funny, since one of my largest fears I brought up during my more ranty days was the fact that even if Flynn had the best story in the world planned leading up to 250, at any moment mandates could strike from above and more or less ruin everything, much like when Robotnik destroyed the original city and left Sonic and his video game buddies behind (who anticlimactically saved the day an issue later with ease) or when Sonic and Tails were having problems and it resulted into them physically fighting each other with Tails hating Sonic (yet with a snap of a finger it all got resolved and they were as good as new).  Both stories were weak and anticlimactic due to mandates from above, sure Flynn might have had much better ideas for what was supposed to have happened, but what we got was rushed lameness that was out of his hands.

With the mysterious figure, we have already seen the mandates start to sink their teeth into the story leading up to 250, and if we're lucky, they won't strike again.  However, my largest fear of all was that the ending we get for 250 won't be anywhere near as good as it HAS to be, in order to make up for the shock value arc that ended around 235 (even if people think the shock value arc by itself was awesome), and even if Flynn truly does have one epic story planned out, who knows what we'll actually end up getting if mandates keep taking bites out of the side of his plot ideas?  It would really be a shame to have a story build up for 2 years just to have it end anticlimactically due to mandates, yet again.  Prior arcs were able to deal with the poor endings since the buildup wasn't as huge as the current one was, or not as long, but if we get something that gets wrapped up quickly or in a bad way, I really don't see it being able to whether the backlash it will get.  If anyone knows how this whole mandate thing works, btw, that would allow for a story to get changed a mere 3 months before it's getting released and therefore send a backlash down all the rest of the comics after it, I'd sure love to know.  You'd think after almost 20 years they'd have worked out a better system for SEGA and Archie to work together, so that they just need to get approval and move on with life...instead of having stories get changed last second so that they're nowhere near as good as they should have been ^^;  (as a side note, even if Hershey wasn't the mysterious figure, Flynn's still on record saying that he planned to use her, but due to powers above, those plans have been scrapped for the foreseeable future).

But anyway, on to the comic.  We begin with Robotnik yelling at Drago about over a video feed about how the base he's scheduled to refuel at is behind schedule, and it's due to the Wolf Pack and Felidae being allied that's causing it.  However, the feed gets cut short due to the Death Egg being virtually out of power due to Robotnik chasing after Snively for so long and for the events in 230-236 (Was nice knowing you Snively, seem you've lost the game for now D:  Take a seat with all the other comic originals till you're allowed to appear in the comic again I suppose :/).

Robotnik is grumbling about the alliance until he realizes that Sally, one of the people that brought them together in the first place, is his slave and orders him to tell her how she'd go about destroying the alliance she helped to create.  Her answer is simple, remove the leaders and shed some doubt, and they'll tear each other to pieces.  As Robotnik goes to refuel, he sends Sally to do just that, kidnap the two leaders and make it look like the other nation is responsible.  We begin with Sally going to Lupe who at first thinks she's come to visit as she stands in the shadows, but quickly learns about Sally's fate as she gets kidnapped, saying to come along peacefully or the villagers will die (how she snuck into the village completely unnoticed though, iono...you'd think as leader of her nation she'd have some kind of security...especially when living right next to a recently waring nation that they don't fully trust...).  Sally then strikes Queen Hathor and easily captures her as well (more lack of guards, and on the outskirts of town to boot, how convenient.  She even left a jet trail that her subordinate could easily see, making it obvious something mechanical kidnapped her and it couldn't be an attack from the Wolf Pack...).

We then move on to Sonic, Tails, Amy and the Tails dog robot arriving at the city, saying they are going to update Lupe on all the madness that's been going down since 230.  As they arrive though, they find Lupe's kids as well as Leeta and Lyco (even though not once in the comic do we get told their names...great characters for the Secret Freedom Fighters eh?) spying in on a meeting, and telling them that Lupe's been kidnapped and that they think the Felidae did it (although as said before, how Sally snuck in, grabbed Lupe and got out without anyone noticing is beyond me...).  Sonic and co. tell them that they think Robotnik did it and explained what happened with Sally.  They want to tell the village chiefs all this but are told they wouldn't listen and that they'd love a reason to start war again.

Sonic and co decide to go and rescue Lupe themselves and Leeta and Lyco tag along, getting updated on what's been happening in the world.  After hearing Sonic's side of life, they mention how bored they are and that they wished for more action in their life (woo tying in why they end up joining the Secret Freedom Fighters).  However, soon into their talking they run into the Legion trying to recapture Hathor.  Sonic and co send them packing and Hathor tells them about their capture and how Lupe let herself stay behind in order to allow Hathor to escape (although since she left her Queen clothes behind, she's apparently not the Queen right now...or something).  Some Felidae grunts arrive ready to start fighting but Hathor is able to talk them into not starting a fight.

We end off with Robotnik, where we learn that the roboticizer is still broken and that Lupe may still be immune to it, but Robotnik is ready to cut her arms off and legionize her, along with brainwashing.

As for the side story, we have Mina entering Freedom HQ asking if Nicole is around, who stays in her computer and replies that she is where she can't hurt anyone and where nobody can hurt her back, which brings a tear to Mina's eye.  Mina replies that she needs Nicole back in the city, and Nicole replies that she's been exiled and that Mina got EXACTLY what she wanted all along.  Mina claims that this isn't what she wanted at all and that she simply wanted to empower the people, not turn them completely against Nicole.

Mina then goes onto explain that she had no idea that Nicole was a double agent during the Iron Dominion Arc and that she simply wanted to make sure Nicole was safe again instead of just blindly believing in her (once again bringing up one of the lazier plot points I had a problem with, where it should have been impossible for her not to know Nicole was a double agent all along...) and that she wants Nicole back, but Nicole flat out refuses, saying that she failed to save Sally, Antoine and Bunnie, but Mina says Sonic was there too yet still refuses to give up hope.  Mina goes on to say that she failed Nicole as well and that in the past she tried to be a Freedom Fighter (just to get into a relationship with Sonic to boot...) and nearly got herself and some kids killed and went on to become a singer because of it, yet all she ended up doing was turning everyone against Nicole.

Mina admits flat out that she missed the mark of the last concert and that she HAS to set things right again, begging to talk to Nicole, who finally lets out a holographic projection for Mina to talk to.  Nicole says it's cramped but it works, but Nicole says she wants her back in the city, to counter Naugus (makes you wonder how Mina would be right now if Naugus wasn't there, huh? >.>).  She also mentions how she can't forgive herself for causing all this grief to Nicole as well.  Nicole brings up how Dimitri once told her to face anger with reason (kind of funny how that was completely and utterly ignored all the way until now ^^;) and that she'd have friends to back her up, and Mina said she'd be more then happy to be a friend to help her back into the city.

Mina finally flat out apologizes to Nicole for everything that's happened and Nicole flat out forgives her, saying that she has to learn how to deal with the bad emotions as well as good ones, as well as Mina saying she has a brand new concert in mind to help bring Nicole back.  Mina then wants to confirm that Nicole won't hide in the computer anymore and Nicole agrees to not hide anymore because none of the other Freedom Fighters would hide either.  As we end the story, Harvey Hoo comes in, saying he has a new project for Nicole to do for his secret little project (probably to create the Secret Freedom Fighter costumes.).

So that was 237, my thoughts?  Well first off, does anyone else at all find it silly how we don't ONCE get Leeta and Lyco called their names?  They're just wolf 1 and wolf 2 through the entire issue...and don't even appear on the character introduction page.  Not a very good way to re-introduce two characters that are going to be in the Secret Freedom Fighters if you ask me ^^;  I mean that was one of the main reasons this two parter story was done right, to reintroduce these two characters?

I also had a little trouble with the whole leadership kidnapping setup.  I mean the idea was sound and all, but Sally did a horrible job kidnapping them and left at least one gaping clue saying that something mechanical kidnapped the Felidae Queen, not to mention how ridiculous it is to believe that she could sneak right up to Lupe without a single person noticing.  This simply is NOt the kind of setup you'd expect to see between two nations that are barely at peace with each other. to leave their leaders completely and utterly open without any guards around.  I understand that you have to rush through setups like this since it's a comic and there are bigger stories to bring about, but some of the lazy storytelling just resurfaced here that I find hard to swallow...

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm certainly getting bored of the Mecha Sally angle too.  I mean how many times can you replay the "character sees Sally roboticez and is shocked" card over and over and over until you just say "get on with it already!"?  I mean it's nice that she's using her tactical mind and all instead of just being a mindless fighting machine, but the shock value is completely and utterly gone now and it's just a dragging plot point that makes you wonder when it will get an ending already.  However, in two issues she gets sent to assassinate her brother, so I'm guessing the climax of her arc will be reached in a few months and by around 242 or so she'll either get her mind back or be returned back to normal, time will tell.

If you toss all of that aside though, the issue itself was fine enough I suppose.  Just a lot of minor problems that don't add up but in general I wouldn't really say I disliked it or anything.  It just...was.

As for the side issue....it was glorious.  I know some people feel that Mina has nothing to apologize for, but to me she did one of the stupidest and poorly planned out things in the comic in a loooong time and she has a lot she needs to make up for.  I still find it highly poor and lazy writing to believe that she wouldn't know Nicole was a double agent, and I wonder what in the world the FF could have done in order to prove they trust Nicole completely and not just blindly, but at least this entire story was Mina owning up to the concert, how utterly stupid it was and how she didn't try to defend herself much at all, beyond what she meant to do instead of what happened.  It was nice seeing Nicole getting out of her self pity as well and ready to start saving the day again.  Of course, I still can't help but wonder if Mina would feel the same way if Naugus wasn't in charge.  Is she doing this complete and utter turn purely because he came on to the scene and Mina saw what it was like to have something worse come on in so she's putting her faith in the lesser of two evils, or is she truly repentant for everything and feels that she made a horrible mistake, even if you take Naugus out of the equation?  For having no brainwashing done, she went pretty quickly from "Nicole is a danger that must be kept in check!" to "What have I done!?!" in a rather unbelievable way that makes her seem a bit too much like a flip flopper, but at least she's making up for her stupid acts now, after all these months later.  

As I side note...I really hope Harvey isn't recruiting Nicole to make battle suits for his team and instead is going to have her crack into a database or something...cause if Nicole makes them battle suits, I'm going to cry foul even more about why Bunnie never got one for herself ^^;  But I suppose we'll find out on that one in SU 41.

All in all though, the main story gave no real strong feelings form me; it had a few rushed flawed and lazy points, but it was a fine enough chapter to just keep the story chugging until we get to the good stuff later on and for reminding us who the two twins are in the Secret Freedom Fighters...even if they aren't important enough for us to be reminded of what their names are...
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ToaArcan Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Ah, mandates. The worst part of official comics.

THe problem I have with the madates at the moment is that while Sonic, Tails, and Amy are the current main heroes (Even though Sonic and Tails could work a lot faster without Ditzy McSmasheverything), none of them are allowed to develop, so they aren't that interesting.

SEGA can get away without having to out character development and so on in their games, because it's a game and characters and story aren't that important. However, in a comic, characters and story are the most important things. If a character does not develop, they often become boring. As such, Sonic is without a doubt one of the most underdeveloped heroes that I have ever seen.

Also, as for why the FF never told anyone that Nicole was a double agent, the reason is simple. They are non-villainous Sonic characters, and thus they must be complete morons. That's the Flynn school of writing for you!
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gameboysage Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2012
Well yeah, one of my biggest complaints is that all this crap is happening purely because our heroes are stupider and not because the villains are more of a threat.
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ToaArcan Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Yeah.

When I write, it's always because of the villain being more badass that allows them to win, not the heroes' failings.

The worst example with this is Tails. He's the smartest character in the damn series, the most powerful Chaos Adept, and the only thing Flynn remembers about him is that he can fly.
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MMTrigger Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
I just thought of something new about the whole King Naugus bit. Max was captured by Robotnik, who threw him into the Zone of Silence. Doesn't that mean Max was a POW before he met Naugus, thus had no authority at all, meaning Naugus really doesn't have legal right to the Kingdom?
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gameboysage Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2012
Suppose you could say Sally was borrowing the power while her father was missing, but Sally also threw Naugus out when he tried to reclaim power when Sally was in control before earlier in the comic. You could probably say Max had no real power while in the zone I suppose.
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Adomortume Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2012
Wonder when we'll see Bunnie and Antoine again, they're the first thing I've been looking for these past couple of issues.

Also, it must be just me but I'm not really interested in the main plot anymore. Robotnik flying around every issue and causing havoc is boring me. I guess it's because I don't have any characters I care about left around. Besides the SEGA characters, but they have plot armor so there's no threat to them. I'll never be in suspense over that.
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gameboysage Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2012
Chances are they make their return around 250, as their new cyborg forms.

But yeah, as I've been saying the Sonic comic has turned into a Michael Bay version of a comic, in which there's lots of action, but it hides the lack of a good story and is just a ton of annoying characters you really don't care much about or WANT to see hurt...like all of the citizens in the city -.-;;;

Plus there's the fact our heroes were written as pretty stupid lately, to allow for all of the bad things to happen to them (not counting Sally, with 230 being the only good issue lately in the last half a year+).
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Adomortume Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2012
250 is far, I hope I won't a year.

Right now, the comic definitely reminds me of Iron Dominion. You have your big battles, plot induced stupidity and inconclusive outcomes for those battles, so they can duke it out again next issue.

Sonic Universe seems more promising right now than the actual comic.
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gameboysage Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2012
Flynn's enjoying his little torture of the fans atm, and with Sally about to be sent to assassinate her brother in 239, I'm not holding my breathe.

Yeah, the past half a year has been subpar at best, even if a ton of the fans love it. There's just soooooooooo many plot holes and forced plot points to poke holes into the story in every single release for me to enjoy it atm. None of them even having to do with the fact our heroes are mutilated or brainwashed, but how it came to happen and other things.

lol you know the next Sonic Universe arc is centered around Silver, Elias and a bunch of side characters nobody cares about, right? It even includes the two Wolf twins who were in 237...that weren't even important enough for the comic to ever tell us their names ^^;
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Adomortume Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2012
Just looked up some previews, they don't look promising at all. Too bad people are going to lap it up anyways.

Seems like Sonic is going to be taken out of the picture, so Team Freedom can get into a battle royale against Team metal. I don't think that Elias will be killed.

I definitely agree with your sentiments about the current state of
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gameboysage Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2012
Yap, people praising Flynn, for reviving old epic story plots, and then making the pacing horrible and being way too sadistic with it... (Metal Sonic vs Metal Sally, or returning Robotnik to what he was before Flynn took over and turned him into a joke).

Yeah Flynn said 234 is the worst he plans to make the comic, so I don't see him actually having Sally succeed in killing anyone.

And yeah...it's just a pity the new generations of fans are poisoned so badly with stuff like Michael Bay films to know what's actually good anymore -.-
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Adomortume Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2012
*Typo*, meant to say, wait a year
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SonicSatamX93 Featured By Owner May 27, 2012  Student Writer
Well said, GB. :clap:

The first story was indeed very lazy and not well thought out. Except for Lupe getting captured, the whole story felt like one big filler with little substance.

That and the fact the Freedom Fighters, or should I say Team Fighters mentioned Sally's fate to the Wolf Pack very callously, as if it was something minor also rubbed me the wrong way a bit too.

Meh, guess I'm nitpicking there. :shrug:

Anyway, as for attack of the mandates, I have a bad feeling they're far from over. Ian wouldn't even mention all of them when asked.

I wish I knew what was going on more behind the scenes because it sounds like Ian's hand get tied quite a bit.

At the very least, we would know who's really responsible for the lousy writing we get at times.
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gameboysage Featured By Owner May 28, 2012
Yap, 236 was good, but this one went back to lazy writing lol, along with the way they bring in the wolf twins...but don't say their names even once....

Well, part of the time it's mandates rushing things along, and other times it's Flynn writing himself into corners, like with Super Scourge lol.
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SonicSatamX93 Featured By Owner May 28, 2012  Student Writer
Ironically, I like the wolf twins, but I guess their names are very oddly named when I think about it.

And yea, Ian does seem to write himself into corners, alot more than I think he should. :P
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gameboysage Featured By Owner May 28, 2012
Yeah...but how hard is it to put their names in the comic? lol

They're literally just wolf twin 1 and wolf twin 2 in 237...not once do we get told their name. Wasn't 236 supposed to be the great new jumping on point for new readers? They'd have no clue at all who those two are -.-;
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SonicSatamX93 Featured By Owner May 29, 2012  Student Writer
232 was also said to be a jumping on point according to the preview cover at that time. :rofl:

I find it very ironic they picked those two because it's almost a very obvious hint how low they think of Sally.

Yea, don't read 230 where we see her valiantly sacrifice herself for her people, just read the aftermath of it where Eggman at the end of the first story scientifically violates her. :roll:
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gameboysage Featured By Owner May 29, 2012
Hrm coulda sworn 236 said it in the description for it, you find on the wiki and stuff.

Yeeeah, Flynn is having way too much with the Mecha Sally stuff, and it's just dragging and kinda lame now...once again poor pacing popping up -.- We've had the "omg Sally's been roboticized?!" reaction a good 3-4 times already so far? Then you toss in a random low battery subplot you won't see again and the fact she says one thing as a brilliant tactic then does something completely lazy and different instead, and it makes you even more confused >.>
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SonicSatamX93 Featured By Owner May 29, 2012  Student Writer
They both did actually. That's why I find the phrase on the preview covers so hilarious, as well as idiotic.

I mean, couldn't they have at least picked 230 or even 220 if they wanted a jumping on point?

Those were better choices IMHO.

And yes, I couldn't agree more with Ian over-dramatizing Sally's fate.

I think it's well past time Ian moved on to the next phase already and get the story moving forward.
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gameboysage Featured By Owner May 29, 2012
Meh, it's pretty apparent they needed a bunch of filler here, in order to make the big stuff happen and end at 250...or to have the huge next twist happen at 250 since Flynn says the madness doesn't end then but only reaches a whole new level of nothing will be the same again.
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TCH2 Featured By Owner May 26, 2012
My dear, I believe you're now giving Ian a chance and I'm pleased. About the mandates, though; they upset me too. I mean, Sonic himself was roboticized not once, but TWICE! And Tails was also roboticized, just once of course, in issue 118. They say Sonic can't lose; didn't he technically lose in issues 231 and 234 and SU 36? And saying the SEGA characters have to be the same as in the games. Robotnik's defiantely not the same as in the games; that's for certain. And Amy's more mature and Sonic's more serious about war and conflict.
Also, they say Sonic can't cry; didn't he cry a few times before and not just in issue 166? He did shed a few tears before. Is it so wrong for a hero to show weakness just for once? This is Sally we're talking about, you know.
I'm sure Sally is trying to break free, but as Uncle Chuck said in SatAM, they know what's going on; they just can't do anything about it. However, I'm certain she will break free; she's too strong to be controlled forever.
I'm sure Ian's doing his best but not all writings are great, you know. All writers have poor moments; it's natural. Hopefully, next issue will be better; I'm sure we won't lose Lupe. Issue 235 was rock bottom, so things can only get better.
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gameboysage Featured By Owner May 26, 2012
lol, well even if people deemed me a blind hater, all I did was simply review the comics one issue at a time starting with 230. Apparently people completely ignored how I gave 230 a good review, and said that as long as the writing holds up to make all the hardships worth it, I won't have anything to complain about.....it just so happened that the issues since have been riddled with lazy or unexplained plot points that I've been able to poke holes in till the cows come home, and all because shock value was the main focus instead of telling a good story ^^; People might not agree but the fact that I've been able to find major problems with the issues since 230, as well as stuff after the Iron Dominion arc concerning Nicole, speaks for themselves.

Yeah, the thing about the other times people got roboticized is that it only happened for one issue, or in Sonic's case, it got concluded in one awesome Super Special, Mecha Madness. You didn't need it to last over a year for people to remember it even to this day -.-

Yap, pretty much as soon as 234 happened most of my fear and anger went away, since Sally herself didn't end up killing anyone (till then I didn't know what his limits were or how Other-M ish he planned to take the comic, but I have a better idea now). I pretty much figure now that we'll get Sally back eventually and that main characters won't start dying left and right, with Flynn saying 234 was the worst he ever plans to make the comic, drama wise.

I do feel that the Sally stuff is getting repetitive and it feels like it's dragging though. Plus who bets the battery life issue won't even show up again anymore in the rest of the comic, like it did with Khan? But yeah, guess we get to see how they save Lupe, and what happens when Sally gets sent to assassinate her brother (hoping that's the 4 part or so story climax that brings Sally back).
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TCH2 Featured By Owner May 26, 2012
I'm glad you've lightened up a bit over the comics; you know, I was afraid for a bit that Sally might kill someone; thank goodness she didn't. And thank goodness Antoine didn't die, though he would have died honourably, protecting his king.
But about this whole 'Mecha' Sally thing; I've always had mixed feelings about it all; I just hope she comes back soon; by at least regaining her free will. I hope we don't have to go through that whole ring battery thing either.
Hopefully, she'll come back around the time she's sent to kill her brother. Don't forget though, my dear; we still have a way to go before issue 250.
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gameboysage Featured By Owner May 26, 2012
Yap, I believe Flynn has boundaries he won't cross now, so I'm not as worried anymore. I'm just looking to make sure the story is good now, and not worrying that it's getting ruined anymore.

Yeah it's hard to tell what will happen next, but it just feels like the brother assassination is the climax to her evil story. Although how she's able to hunt after her brother and all, when we've seen she has a pretty poor battery life, is beyond me.
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TCH2 Featured By Owner May 26, 2012
I know what you mean. Sometimes, though, I wonder if that battery thing was just a rouse for Khan to make himself vulnerable.
Also, a friend of mine believes that when Sally said Khan loved her, she might have been showing some free will for a second before she turned off. If she did, that proves that Robotnik's control isn't unbreakable.
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gameboysage Featured By Owner May 26, 2012
Naw, it's what we call a convenient plot device <,< One of the big things I've been complaining about with the comic lately.

As for the love stuff...that was simply Mecha Sally using her memories as a tacticians to get what she wanted and win, just like how she mentioned the best way to take down the Wolf Pack and Falidae.
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TCH2 Featured By Owner May 26, 2012
I don't know; I want to believe she showed free will, you know. Anyway, Robotnik making her destroy the peace between the Wolves and Felidae that she helped create is sick. But then, Mecha Sally is a very twisted version of Sally; using Sally's memories to her advantage is just sick.
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gameboysage Featured By Owner May 26, 2012
People seem to enjoy sick and demented these days, so yeah ^^;
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Waimbert Featured By Owner May 25, 2012
Nice review GB, though I can't help but wonder if Sega mandate over the Archie Sonic comic, is there way enforcing their philosophy that Sonic should be more like games and less like the original series it was first brought up to be. I feel that Sega see the potential of the comic as a mean to advertise the games, and they want to push the game characters in the spotlight as oppose to the original characters. So character like Hershey are less of a priority then someone like Silver or Shadow.
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gameboysage Featured By Owner May 25, 2012
Yeah, I don't think SEGA realizes that they only hurt their franchises by doing this stuff lol.
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Waimbert Featured By Owner May 25, 2012
Indeed, its not like think the fan base can't tell that the universe within Archie Sonic canon is its own thing, while the games can be their own thing. Heck they can't even get their own continuity straight or tone, while the comic have kept it consistent for years.
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DullahanJane Featured By Owner May 25, 2012
I see some nice plot holes here, always good when you can drive a semi through them. ><
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gameboysage Featured By Owner May 25, 2012
lol yap, but at least this time the lazy writing is just to move the story along faster, instead of trying to explain why our heroes are getting mutilated or exiled. I don't mind bad writing as much when the stakes aren't as high (wonder what's gonna happen to Lupe though).
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SallyAcornfan1701 Featured By Owner May 25, 2012
All I have to say is Lupe better NOT be legionized because she is one of my favorite characters.
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gameboysage Featured By Owner May 25, 2012
The shock value arc is over, so chances are Robotnik won't completely win this day, but you never know with how the writing has been lately.
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NitroactiveStudios Featured By Owner May 24, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ian Flynn confirmed that the mysteryous figure is Leeta and Lyco: [link]
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gameboysage Featured By Owner May 24, 2012
lol interesting, he certainly gave a completely different impression during an interview not too long ago about it.

I still find it funny how nobody bothers saying their names in 237 though.
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NitroactiveStudios Featured By Owner May 24, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah and I'm about to make a blog about this in my group.
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gameboysage Featured By Owner May 25, 2012
Which part? Even if Hershey wasn't going to be the mysterious figure, he still went on record saying that he planned for a big roll for her but the higher ups made him scratch her part in the story a looong time :/
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maxvision92 Featured By Owner May 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I have a question: Why has Sally not begun plotting to overthrow Eggman yet? We've just seen that she's much more competent than Eggman could ever hope to be, so why not have her depose him and take over as main baddie for, oh say, 10 issues?
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gameboysage Featured By Owner May 24, 2012
Cause she's programmed to do whatever Robotnik says. He didn't give her a personality or a desire for power, just a program to follow whatever he says and to use her old memories to help.
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maxvision92 Featured By Owner May 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Bollocks to that, I say! I'd much rather my idea be the big twist in #240; you can have your happy ending at the milestone.
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Masterge77 Featured By Owner May 24, 2012  Hobbyist
Mandates eh?

Ever heard of some of Sega's ridiculous restrictions on the Sonic franchise? Such as that Sonic is not allowed to have a long-term/permanent love relationship (hence his constant break ups with Sally after getting together), also, the game characters all have to act certain ways, they're barely allowed any character development at all. and Sonic cannot age, so you cannot see a time travel story in which Sonic meets his younger or elderly self, he's forever... um, 16 years old, I think. And in the Genesis series, Sega forbidden Archie from using the Classic designs, and were forced to use the current modern designs.

Probably the most RIDICULOUS one is that Sonic is not allowed to cry, EVER, he didn't even cry when Sally was roboticized, and Dr. Eggman Nega is forbidden to appear, he has to be called DOCTOR NEGA for some reason, and Ian isn't too happy about it.

So really, Ian isn't trying to destroy the series, he's just following Sega's orders. But what I think is that with these ridiculous mandates, Sega has ordered Flynn to eliminate the freedom fighters and all elements of the SatAM universe to make the Sonic comics more like the games.

Takashi Iizuka, the head of Sonic Team, has admitted freely before that he HATES the Sonic SatAM cartoon and is against all American portrayals of Sonic (that includes AoStH and Underground), so that's one likely reason for these ridiculous mandates, Sonic the Hedgehog co-creator Naoto Oshima has said that Sonic was based "on the image of America", and Sega is basically denying that. It's a wonder why Sonic co-creators Naoto Oshima and Yuki Naja both left Sega...
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gameboysage Featured By Owner May 24, 2012
Hm, I know we've seen Sonic at the age of 40 or so give or take, just looking the same except for a few wrinkles under the eyes.

Yeah you'll see from my wording that I don't actually blame Flynn for any of the shortcomings I listed in this journal and blamed them more on the mandates for why the arc endings were so weak. Even if there are some story ideas I really don't like that he's come up with lol.

Well, we know he took out Antoine and Bunnie to explain why they have cyborg children, so I don't think they're all gone forever, just for a while.

Well...I could see why AoStH is hated so much...and Underground to a point lol. Don't see why he'd hate SatAM so much though D: It's funny too cause they were able to do such awesome stuff near the beginning of the comic's life, well pre 100 at least. I wonder when/why the reigns were tightened so much.
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bvw1979 Featured By Owner May 24, 2012
Well GB, I have a theory. Could Havey have that derobotizer for #29 left over? And he's asking for Nicole's help, makes one think.
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gameboysage Featured By Owner May 24, 2012
And she's going to be attacking Elias soon enough too lol. Unfortunately it doesn't sound like we'll be getting a big issue in 240 though, just a regular every day issue -.-;

Although if Naugus isn't responsible for turning Sally back, it would make Bunnie's whole story arc totally pointless lol......except for maybe explaining why Sally will be fully clothed when turned back to normal.
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